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		<title>By: TheZach</title>
		<link>http://www.thezach.net/blog/a-decision-is-made-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-1486</link>
		<dc:creator>TheZach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexa obviously my mind has changed.  But you appear to stupid to realize it or just want to egg me on - which is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexa obviously my mind has changed.  But you appear to stupid to realize it or just want to egg me on &#8211; which is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
		<link>http://www.thezach.net/blog/a-decision-is-made-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Be made normal so i can have friends and a relationship with Katelyn if you have relationships in heaven&quot;

What if you kill yourself, Katelyn remembers the nasty stuff you said about her on http://www.thezach.net/blog/takin-out-the-trash/ instead of being amnesiac, and when she goes to heaven she refuses to have a relationship with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Be made normal so i can have friends and a relationship with Katelyn if you have relationships in heaven&#8221;</p>
<p>What if you kill yourself, Katelyn remembers the nasty stuff you said about her on <a href="http://www.thezach.net/blog/takin-out-the-trash/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thezach.net/blog/takin-out-the-trash/</a> instead of being amnesiac, and when she goes to heaven she refuses to have a relationship with you?</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Bollard</title>
		<link>http://www.thezach.net/blog/a-decision-is-made-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Bollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach, 
I know I&#039;m late to the discussion - been camping all weekend and I know that it&#039;s all blown over again but I&#039;m still posting a response for you to consider when you relapse (as you seem to be doing it weekly)

Your points are below, mine are in brackets...

Die
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Be able to watch my daughter grow up from heaven
 (assumed and unproven - even if there IS a heaven, there&#039;s no guarantee that;
1. You&#039;ll get there - especially if you self-terminate.
2. You&#039;ll be able to see anything down here from there.)

Be able to watch over Katelyn from heaven 
(also assumed and unproven - see points above but also remember that if something happens, you won&#039;t be in a position to help - you&#039;ll just have to watch in agony.)

Be made normal so i can have friends and a relationship with Katelyn if you have relationships in heaven  
(seriously assumed - I&#039;ve never EVER seen mention of &quot;relationships&quot; in heaven, or &quot;friendships&quot; in heaven.  I&#039;ve also never heard of anyone being made &quot;normal&quot;.   Even if you were made &quot;normal&quot;, what makes you think that;
1. You&#039;d be better off
2. Normal is a good state to be
3. You wouldn&#039;t lose the unique qualities that make you &quot;Zach&quot;)

No more pain
(after 100 years or so of purgatory, if we&#039;re following your beliefs - and technically, since you&#039;d have committed a grievous sin (self termination = thou shalt not kill, you&#039;d actually go to hell.  The bible is pretty specific about Hell - in the NEW testament, Jesus himself references it a few times - see: http://www.eternalhell.net/biblequotesonhell.htm  I&#039;m not a hugely religious person, but I know that you are.)

No more sorrows
(Crap! See no more pain).

Katelyn’s parents won’t have to worry about me having Aspergers anymore, because I’ll be made whole.  So they won’t worry about me hurting Kate
(You&#039;ll be hurting Kate because no matter what you say or write, she will still blame herself).

I’ll be happier
(double-crap! see no more sorrows and no more pain)

Score: 0/7 :  Absolute rubbish!

Live
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Never see my daughter until I die
(You don&#039;t know that - NEVER is a very long time.  One day, I&#039;m sure, she&#039;ll seek you out.  She&#039;s going to e very disappointed if you&#039;re not there for her.)

Never see Katelyn until I die
(See the previous statement)

Live in pain
(I&#039;ll grant you that one - for the moment, but pain heals).

No social life
For now, but not forever.

Alone
(Maybe, Maybe not.... Forever really is a long, long time).

Score:  1/5  There were two half-truths there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach,<br />
I know I&#8217;m late to the discussion &#8211; been camping all weekend and I know that it&#8217;s all blown over again but I&#8217;m still posting a response for you to consider when you relapse (as you seem to be doing it weekly)</p>
<p>Your points are below, mine are in brackets&#8230;</p>
<p>Die<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Be able to watch my daughter grow up from heaven<br />
 (assumed and unproven &#8211; even if there IS a heaven, there&#8217;s no guarantee that;<br />
1. You&#8217;ll get there &#8211; especially if you self-terminate.<br />
2. You&#8217;ll be able to see anything down here from there.)</p>
<p>Be able to watch over Katelyn from heaven<br />
(also assumed and unproven &#8211; see points above but also remember that if something happens, you won&#8217;t be in a position to help &#8211; you&#8217;ll just have to watch in agony.)</p>
<p>Be made normal so i can have friends and a relationship with Katelyn if you have relationships in heaven<br />
(seriously assumed &#8211; I&#8217;ve never EVER seen mention of &#8220;relationships&#8221; in heaven, or &#8220;friendships&#8221; in heaven.  I&#8217;ve also never heard of anyone being made &#8220;normal&#8221;.   Even if you were made &#8220;normal&#8221;, what makes you think that;<br />
1. You&#8217;d be better off<br />
2. Normal is a good state to be<br />
3. You wouldn&#8217;t lose the unique qualities that make you &#8220;Zach&#8221;)</p>
<p>No more pain<br />
(after 100 years or so of purgatory, if we&#8217;re following your beliefs &#8211; and technically, since you&#8217;d have committed a grievous sin (self termination = thou shalt not kill, you&#8217;d actually go to hell.  The bible is pretty specific about Hell &#8211; in the NEW testament, Jesus himself references it a few times &#8211; see: <a href="http://www.eternalhell.net/biblequotesonhell.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.eternalhell.net/biblequotesonhell.htm</a>  I&#8217;m not a hugely religious person, but I know that you are.)</p>
<p>No more sorrows<br />
(Crap! See no more pain).</p>
<p>Katelyn’s parents won’t have to worry about me having Aspergers anymore, because I’ll be made whole.  So they won’t worry about me hurting Kate<br />
(You&#8217;ll be hurting Kate because no matter what you say or write, she will still blame herself).</p>
<p>I’ll be happier<br />
(double-crap! see no more sorrows and no more pain)</p>
<p>Score: 0/7 :  Absolute rubbish!</p>
<p>Live<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Never see my daughter until I die<br />
(You don&#8217;t know that &#8211; NEVER is a very long time.  One day, I&#8217;m sure, she&#8217;ll seek you out.  She&#8217;s going to e very disappointed if you&#8217;re not there for her.)</p>
<p>Never see Katelyn until I die<br />
(See the previous statement)</p>
<p>Live in pain<br />
(I&#8217;ll grant you that one &#8211; for the moment, but pain heals).</p>
<p>No social life<br />
For now, but not forever.</p>
<p>Alone<br />
(Maybe, Maybe not&#8230;. Forever really is a long, long time).</p>
<p>Score:  1/5  There were two half-truths there.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Sue Wayland</title>
		<link>http://www.thezach.net/blog/a-decision-is-made-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Sue Wayland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MCV</title>
		<link>http://www.thezach.net/blog/a-decision-is-made-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>MCV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach, you are your own worst enemy.  I don&#039;t think anyone could hate you more than you hate yourself.
You need to learn to love yourself before you can claim to love anyone else. . . . Including &#039;love&#039; for Kate and your daughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach, you are your own worst enemy.  I don&#8217;t think anyone could hate you more than you hate yourself.<br />
You need to learn to love yourself before you can claim to love anyone else. . . . Including &#8216;love&#8217; for Kate and your daughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspigander</title>
		<link>http://www.thezach.net/blog/a-decision-is-made-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>Aspigander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear.  I see you haven&#039;t made a list of cons for dying (other than the bit at the end about dying alone) or pros for living.  

It&#039;s sad that you see it that way.  I can think of some pros for living and cons for dying, but I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll be able to see them at this point, so pointing them out may only serve as further frustration.  

Tragic outcome, and the way I see it, it&#039;s a huge failure of the system to do what it&#039;s supposed to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear.  I see you haven&#8217;t made a list of cons for dying (other than the bit at the end about dying alone) or pros for living.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that you see it that way.  I can think of some pros for living and cons for dying, but I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll be able to see them at this point, so pointing them out may only serve as further frustration.  </p>
<p>Tragic outcome, and the way I see it, it&#8217;s a huge failure of the system to do what it&#8217;s supposed to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
		<link>http://www.thezach.net/blog/a-decision-is-made-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Be made normal so i can have friends and a relationship with Katelyn if you have relationships in heaven&quot;

What if you kill yourself, Katelyn doesn&#039;t kill herself, Katelyn outlives you by decades, Katelyn has a relationship with another man instead of staying single all those decades, and after they die she wants to stay in her relationship with *him* in heaven instead of dumping him to go back to a relationship with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Be made normal so i can have friends and a relationship with Katelyn if you have relationships in heaven&#8221;</p>
<p>What if you kill yourself, Katelyn doesn&#8217;t kill herself, Katelyn outlives you by decades, Katelyn has a relationship with another man instead of staying single all those decades, and after they die she wants to stay in her relationship with *him* in heaven instead of dumping him to go back to a relationship with you?</p>
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